DAVID HUDSON LECTURES

David  Hudson is the originator of the term “Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements”, and holds the patent. David Hudson patent can be seen: Hudson Patent for White Powder Gold

My name is David Hudson. I'm a third generation native Phoenician from
an old family in the Phoenix area. We are an old family. We are very
conservative. I come from an ultra-conservative right wing background.
For those of you who have heard of the John Birch Society, Barry
Goldwater, these ultra right- wing Rush Limbaugh conservatives; that's
the area that I come from. I'm not saying whether it is right or wrong
but that is my ( David Hudson) background.

David Hudson had no idea he would be doing this type of work.
" In 1975-76 I was very unhappy with the banking
system here in the United States. I was farming about 70 thousand acres
in the Phoenix area in the Yuma valley. I was a very large,
materialistic person. I was farming this amount of ground. I had a forty
man payroll every week. I had a four million line of credit with the
bank. I was driving Mercedes Benz's. I had a 15,000 square foot home."
David Hudson referred to himself as "Mr. Material Man" during that period.
 

David Hudson Discovery of Monoatomic Elements

In 1975 David Hudson was doing an analysis of natural products in the area
where he was farming. "You have to understand that in agriculture in the
state of Arizona we have a problem with sodium soil. This high sodium
soil, which looks like chocolate ice cream on the ground, is just
crunchy black. It crunches when you walk on it. Water will not penetrate
this soil. Water will not leach the sodium out of the ground. It's
called black alkali.

What we were doing was going to the copper mines in the state of Arizona
and buying 93% sulfuric acid. For those of you who don't know, the
battery acid in your car is 40-60% acid. This was 93% sulfuric acid;
very, very high concentration. We were bringing in truck and trailer
loads of this sulfuric acid to my farm and I was injecting thirty tons
to the acre into the soil.

We were putting six inch ribbons on the ground that would penetrate
about three or four inches into the ground. When you irrigate (nothing
will grow in Arizona unless you irrigate) the ground would actually
froth and foam due to the action of the sulfuric acid. What it did was
convert the black alkali to white alkali, which was water soluble. So
within a year and a half to two years you would have a field that could
actually grow crops.

In the work that I was doing with these soils, it is very important that
you have a lot of calcium in the soil in the form of calcium carbonate.
The calcium carbonate would act as a buffer for all the acid that was
being put on the soil. If you don't have enough calcium the acidity of
the soil goes down, you get a pH of 4-4.5 and it ties up all of your
trace nutrients. When you plant your cotton it will only get so tall
then it won't grow any more.

It's very important when you are putting all of these amendments on your
soil that you understand what is in your soil: how much iron is there,
how much calcium is there and so on.

In doing the analysis of these natural products we were coming across
materials that no one seemed to be able to tell us what they were. We
began to trace this material and we found that it seemed to come from a
specific geological feature. Whatever the problem with this material was
we felt that the area where it was in greatest abundance would be the
best place to study it.
 

David Hudson: The Chemistry of M-state Elements

We took the material into chemistry and we dissolved it and got a
solution that would be blood red. Yet when we precipitated this material
out chemically by using a reductant of powdered zinc the material would
come out as a black precipitant just like it was supposed to be if it
was a noble element. A noble element if you chemically bring it out of
the acid it won't re-dissolve in the acid.

So we precipitated this material out of the black and we took the
material and dried it. In the drying process we took a large porcelain
funnel called a Butiner funnel about this big it had a filter paper on
it. This material was about a quarter of an inch thick on top of the
filter paper. At that time I didn't have a drying furnace or a drying
oven so I just set it out in the Arizona sunshine which was about 115
degrees at 5% humidity so it really dried fast.

What happened was that after the material dried it exploded. It exploded
like no explosion I had ever seen in my life and I've worked with a lot
of explosive materials. There was no explosion and there was no
implosion. It was as if somebody had detonated about fifty thousand
flash bulbs all at one time just poof. All the material was gone, the
filter paper was gone and the funnel was cracked.

So I took a brand new pencil that had never been sharpened and stood it
on end next to the funnel and started drying another sample. When the
material detonated it burned the pencil about 30% in two but did not
knock the pencil over and all the sample was gone. So this was not an
explosion and was not an implosion. It was like a tremendous release of
light.

It was like you set that pencil beside a fire place and after about 20
minutes you saw it was smoking on one side and burning in two. That's
what the pencil looked like immediately after the flash. Now this just
had me baffled. What ever this stuff is it's wild. We found that if we
dried it out of the sunlight it didn't explode but if we dried it in the
sunlight it exploded.

So then we took some of the powder that was dried out of the sunlight
and we decided we were going to put it in what is called a crucible
reduction. A crucible reduction involves taking a crucible (which is
like a big drinking glass made out of porcelain) and you mix your powder
with lead and all this flux and all and you heat it till the lead melts.
What happens is the metals that are heavier than lead stay in the lead
and all of those that are lighter float out. This is the basic premise
of your fire assays which have been done for hundreds of years.

Now supposedly gold and silver will stay in the lead and all your other
non heavy elements will come out of the lead. This is the tried and true
way of doing metals analysis. Well this material settled to the bottom
of the lead just like it was gold and silver. This material seemed to be
denser than lead. When we poured off the slag it would take everything
but the noble elements, then we poured off the lead and this material
came off as a constituency at the bottom of the molten lead. It was
separated from it. Yet when you take this material and put it on a bone
ash cupel the lead soaks into the cupel and it leaves your bead of gold
and silver. Well we did this and we got a bead that should have been
gold and silver.

We took this bead for analysis to all the commercial laboratories and
they said Dave there is nothing but gold and silver there. Except I
could take that bead and set it on a table and hit it with a hammer and
it shattered like glass. Now there is no known alloy of gold and silver
that is not soft. Gold and silver dissolve in each other perfectly and
they form solid solutions and they are both very soft elements and so
any alloy of gold and silver if that's all that's there is going to be
soft and ductile. You can flatten it out and make a pancake out of it.
Yet this material shattered like glass. I said something's going on here
that we are not understanding. Something unusual is happening.

So what we did is we took these beads of gold and silver and separated
them chemically with the gold and silver out. What we had left is a
whole bunch of black stuff. When I took this black stuff to the
commercial laboratories they told me that it was iron, silica and
aluminum. I said this can't be iron, silica and aluminum. First of all
you can't dissolve it in any acids or any bases once it is totally dry.
It doesn't dissolve in fuming sulfuric acid, it doesn't dissolve in
sulfuric nitric acid, it doesn't dissolve in hydrochloric nitric acid.
Even this dissolves gold yet it won't dissolve this black stuff. I
thought this material is really strange. It just has to have an
explanation. No one could tell me what it was.

Basically I went to Cornell University. I said we are just going to have
to throw some money at this problem. So I went and hired a Ph.D. at
Cornell who considered himself an expert on precious elements. I
suspected we were dealing with precious elements. I said I want to know
what this is. I paid him to come out to Arizona. He looked at the
problem. He said "we have a machine back at Cornell that can analyze
down to parts per billion". He said "you let me take this material back
to Cornell and I'll tell you exactly what you have, exactly". Unless it
is chlorine, bromine or one of the lighter elements, then we can't
analyze it. But if it is anything above iron we will find it. When he
got back there he told me it was iron silica aluminum.

I said "look doctor do you have a chemistry laboratory around here we
could borrow?" He said "yes." I said "let's go to the chemistry
laboratory." We worked in the chemistry laboratory all the rest of that
day and we were able to remove all the silica, all the iron and all the
aluminum. We still had 98% of the sample and that was pure nothing. I
said "look I can hold this in my hand, I can weigh it, I can performs
chemistries with it". "I said that is something". "I know that is
something." "It is not nothing."

He said "the absorption or emissions spectrum does not agree with
anything we have programmed into our instrument." I said "well that is
something and I'm going to find out what." And he said "Mr. Hudson why
don't you give us a $35 0,000 dollar grant and we'll put graduate
students to looking into it." Well I had already paid this man about
$22,000 because he claimed he could analyze anything and he hadn't. He
didn't offer to pay any of my money back. I said "sir, I don't know what
you pay the people around here but we pay minimum wage on the farm where
I work and I can get a lot more out of $350,000 than you can." "So I'm
going to go back and do the work myself."

I came back to Phoenix totally disillusioned with academia. I was not
impressed with the Ph.D's. I was not impressed with the people I had
paid money to. I found out that it is just a big system where they
worked the graduate students to generate paper but they never say
anything but the government pays them for every paper they write so they
get their money based on the number of papers they turned out. They all
say the same thing they just re-word it and turn out another paper. It
really is disillusioning when you find out what academia is doing right
now.

Fortunately I asked around the Phoenix area and I found out about a man
who was a spectroscopist. He had been trained in West Germany at the
institute for spectroscopy. He had been the senior technician for Lab
Test company in Los Angeles which builds spectroscopic equipment. He's
the man who blue printed them, designed them, constructed them then took
them to the field and then made them work. I said here's a good man.
This is not just a technician. Here is a man who knows how the machine
works.

I went to him with a Soviet book that the fire assay man had given me.
It was called The Analytical Chemistry of the Platinum Group Elements by
Ginsberg. It was published by the Soviet Academy of Sciences. In this
book, according to the Soviets, you had to do a 300 second burn on these
elements to read them.

Now for those of you who have never done spectroscopy it involves taking
a carbon electrode that is cupped at the top. You put the powder on that
electrode and you bring the other electrode down above it and you strike
an arc. In about fifteen seconds the carbon at this high temperature
burns away and the electrode's gone and your sample's gone. So all the
laboratories in this country are doing fifteen second burns and giving
you the results. According to the Soviet Academy of Sciences the boiling
temperature of water is to the boiling temperature of iron just like the
boiling temperature of iron is to the boiling temperature of these
elements.

As you know from driving a car as long as there is water in the motor of
your car the temperature of that car engine will never hotter than the
boiling temperature of water until all the water is gone. If you just
heated the water on the stove in a pan you know that pan never gets
hotter than the boiling temperature of the water till all the water is
gone. Once all the water is gone the temperature skyrockets really fast.

As long as there is iron there the temperature of the sample can never
get hotter than the boiling temperature of the iron until all of the
iron is gone so you can then heat this stuff. Now this is hard to fathom
how something with as high a boiling temperature as iron could be just
like water to these elements but it is. So literally we had to design
and build an excitation chamber where argon gas could be put around this
electrode so than no oxygen or air could get in to the carbon electrode
and we could burn it not for fifteen seconds but for three hundred
seconds. According to the Soviet Academy of Sciences this is the length
of time we have to burn the sample.

We set up, we got the [PK blenders?], we got the standards, we modified
the machine, we did all the analysis for results, we did all the
spectral lines on this three and a half meter instrument. That's the
spec for how big the prism is which opens up the line spectrum. For
those of you who don't know, most universities have a one point five
meter instrument. This is a three and a half meter instrument. A huge
machine. It took up the whole garage area. It was about thirty feet long
and about eight or nine feet high.

Anyway when we ran this material during the first fifteen seconds we got
iron, silica, aluminum, little traces of calcium, sodium maybe a little
titanium now and then and then it goes quiet and nothing reads. So at
the end of fifteen seconds you are getting nothing. Twenty seconds,
twenty five seconds, thirty seconds, thirty five seconds, forty seconds
still got nothing. Forty five seconds, fifty seconds, fifty five
seconds, sixty seconds, sixty five seconds but if you look in through
the colored glass sitting there on the carbon electrode is this little
ball of white material. There's still something in there.

At seventy seconds, exactly when the Soviet Academy of Science said it
would read, palladium begins to read. And after the palladium platinum
begins to read. And after the platinum I think it was rhodium begins to
read. After rhodium ruthenium begins to read. After ruthenium then
iridium begins to read and after the iridium osmium begins to read.

Now if you're like me I didn't know what these elements were. I had
heard of platinum, platinum jewelry, but what are these other elements.
Well there are six platinum group elements in the periodic table not
just platinum. They didn't find out about them at the same time so they
have been added one at a time. They are all elements just like iron,
cobalt and nickel are three different elements ruthenium, rhodium and
palladium are light platinums and osmium, iridium and platinum are the
heavy platinums.

Well we came to find out that rhodium was selling for about three
thousand dollars per ounce. Gold sells for about four hundred dollars an
ounce. Iridium sells for about eight hundred dollars an ounce and
ruthenium sells for one hundred and fifty dollars an ounce.

Then you say gee these are important materials aren't they. They are
important materials because in the world the best known deposit is now
being mined in South Africa. In this deposit you have to go a half mile
into the ground and mine an 18 inch seam of this stuff. When you bring
it out it contains one third of one ounce per ton of all the precious
elements.

Our analysis, which we ran for two and a half years and we checked over
and over; we checked every spectral line, we checked every potential on
interference, we checked every aspect of this. We created apples and
apples, oranges and oranges, bananas and bananas. We wanted exact
matches.

When we were finished the man was able to do quantitative analysis and
he said "Dave, you have six to eight ounces per ton of palladium, twelve
to thirteen ounces per ton of platinum, one hundred fifty ounces per ton
of osmium, two hundred fifty ounces per ton of ruthenium, six hundred
ounces per ton of iridium, and eight hundred ounces per ton of rhodium.
Or a total of about 2400 ounces per ton when the best known deposit in
the world is one third of one ounce per ton.

As you can see this work wasn't an indicator that these elements were
there; these elements were there and they were there in boucoups
amounts. They were saying hey stupid man pay attention we are trying to
show you something.

If they had been there in little amounts I probably would have contended
with this. But they were there in such huge amounts I said golly, how
can they be there in these quantities and no one knew it. Now you keep
in mind, it wasn't one spectral analysis it was two and a half years of
spectral analysis running this material every day. And the man actually
sent me away when they read because he couldn't believe it either. And
he worked on it another two months before he called me up and apologized
to me and he said "Dave you are right." That is how skeptical he was
about it. He couldn't apologize to me. He is a German researcher with
German pride so he had his wife call and apologize to me.

He was so impressed that he went back to Germany to the Institute of
Spectroscopy. He was actually written up in the spectroscopic journals
as having proven the existence of these elements in the Southwestern
United States in natural materials. It's not journals that you would
ever read but I actually saw the journals, he was written up.

They had no idea where this stuff was coming from, how we were producing
it, what concentrations we had gone through or anything, they just had
analyzed this small amount of powder. The crazy thing about it is, all
we had done is remove the silica and sent the other stuff in. It was
pretty unbelievable numbers. After we had come at this in every way we
know how, to disprove it, I decided all we have to do is throw money at
this problem because money solves everything, right?

So at 69 seconds I stopped the burn. I let the machine cool down and I
took a pocket knife and dug that little bead out of the top of the
electrode. When you shut off the arc it sort of absorbs down into the
carbon and you have to dig down into the carbon to get it out; this
little bead of metal.

So I sent this little bead of metal over to Harlow Laboratories in
London. They made a precious metals analysis on this bead. I get the
report back "no precious element detected". Now this was one second
before the palladium was supposed to start leaving. Yet according to
neutron activation, which analyzes the nucleus itself, there were no
precious elements detected.

This made absolutely no sense at all. There had to be an explanation
here. Either this material was converted to another element or it's in a
form that we don't understand yet. So I decided that I just had to get
more information on it. I went to a Ph.D. analytical chemist, a man who
was trained at separating and purifying individual elements out of
unknown material. He was trained at Iowa State University and he had a
Ph.D. in metal separation systems. He's the man that Motorola and Sperry
used in the state of Arizona to handle their waste water problems.

He has worked with every element on the periodic table with the
exception of four. He has worked with all the rare earths, he has worked
with all the man made elements. He has physically separated everything
on the periodic table with the exception of four elements.
Coincidentally I came to him to have him separate six elements. Four of
those were the elements he had never worked on. He said "you know David
Hudson, I have heard this story before. All my life, and I'm a native
Arizonan too, I have heard this story about these precious elements. I
am very impressed with the way you have gone about this: with the
systematic way you have approached it. I cannot accept any money because
if I accept money from you I have to write you a written report.

All I have to sell is my reputation. All I have to sell is my
credibility. I'm a certified expert witness in the state of Arizona in
metallurgical separation systems. He said "David I will work for you at
no charge until I can show you where you are wrong." "When I can tell
you where you are wrong I'll give you a written report." "Then you will
pay me sixty dollars an hour for the time I spent." This would have come
to about twelve to fifteen thousand dollars. If this gets rid of the
curse; if this just gets the thing answered once and for all it's worth
it. It was for me at the time. Do it, get on with it.

Well, three years later he said "I can tell you it is not any of the
other elements on the periodic table. We are educated; we are taught to
do the chemical separation of the material and then send it for
instrumental confirmation."

The example I use is rhodium because it has a very unique color to the
chloride solution. It is a cranberry color almost like the color of
grape juice. There is no other element that produces the same color in
chloride solution. When my rhodium was separated from all the other
elements it produced that color of chloride. The last procedure you do
to separate the material out is to neutralize the acid solution and it
precipitates out of solution as a red brown dioxide. That is heated
under a controlled atmosphere to 800 degrees for an hour and that
creates the anhydrous dioxide. Then you hydro reduce that under a
controlled atmosphere to get the element and then you anneal away the
excess hydrogen.

So when we did that, we neutralized the acid solution and precipitated
it out as a red-brown dioxide. Which is the color it is supposed to
precipitate. Then we filtered that out. We heated it under oxygen for an
hour in a tube furnace then we hydro-reduced it to this gray-white
powder: exactly the color rhodium should be as an element. Then we
heated it up to 1400 degrees under argon to anneal away the material and
it turned snow white.

Now this wasn't expected. This just isn't what is supposed to happen. So
what John did was he said "Dave, I'm going to heat it to the anhydrous
dioxide, I'm going to cool it down. I'm going to take one third of the
sample and put it in a sealed vial. I'm going to put the rest of the
sample back in the tube furnace and heat it up under oxygen, cool it
back down, purge it with inert gas, heat it back up under hydrogen to
reduce away the oxides and the hydrogen reacts with oxygen forming water
and cleans the metal. I'll cool that down to the gray-white powder. I'll
take half of that and put it in another sealed vial. I'll take the rest
of the powder and put it back in the furnace. I'm going to oxidize it,
and hydro-reduce it and anneal it to the white powder. Then I will put
it into a vial and send all three vials to Pacific Spectrochem over in
Los Angeles, one of the best spectroscopic firms in the U.S.

The first analysis comes back. The red-brown dioxide is iron oxide. The
next material comes back; silica and aluminum. No iron present. Now just
putting hydrogen on the iron oxide has made the iron quit being iron and
now it has become silica and aluminum. Now this was a big sample. We
just made the iron turn into silica and aluminum. The snow white
annealed sample was analyzed as calcium and silica. Where did the
aluminum go? John said "Dave my life was so simple before I met you." He
said "this makes absolutely no sense at all." He said "what what you are
working with is going to cause them to re-write physics books to
re-write chemistry books and come to a complete new understanding.

John gave me his bill, it was a hundred and thirty thousand dollars
which I paid. But he said "Dave, I have separated physically and I have
checked it chemically fifty different ways and you have four to six
ounces per ton of palladium, twelve to fourteen ounces per ton of
platinum, a hundred fifty ounces per ton of osmium, two hundred fifty
ounces per ton of ruthenium, six hundred ounces per ton of iridium, and
eight hundred ounces per ton of osmium. The exact same numbers that the
spectroscopist had told me were there. It was such an incredible number
that John said "Dave, I've got to go to the natural place where this
stuff comes from and I've got to take my own samples. So he went up and
actually walked the property and took his own samples, put it in a bag,
brought them back to the laboratory, pulverized the entire sample and
then started doing the analysis on what is called the master blend
sample which represented the whole geology and he got the same numbers.
 

David Hudson: Separating the M-state Elements

We worked on this from 1983 until 1989. One Ph.D. chemist, three master
chemists, two technicians working full time. Using the Soviet Academy of
Sciences, the U.S. Bureau of Standards-Weights and Measures information
as a starting point we literally learned how to do qualitative and
quantitative separations of all of these elements. We learned how to
take commercial standards and make them disappear. We learned how to buy
rhodium tri-chloride from Johnson, Mathew & Ingelhardt as the metal and
we learned how to break all the metal-metal bonding until it literally
was a red solution but no rhodium detectable. And it was nothing but
pure rhodium from Johnson, Mathew & Ingelhardt.

We learned how to do this with iridium, we learned how to do it with
gold, we learned how to do it with osmium, we learned how to do it with
ruthenium. And what we found when we actually purchased a machine called
high pressure liquid chromatography.

And for your information this person named John [Sycapose?] was the man
who actually wrote his Ph.D. thesis at Iowa State University on how to
build this instrument. He conceptualized building this instrument back
in 1963-64.

After he graduated some of the graduate students there took that
technology and developed it and eventually Dow Chemical came in and
bought it. Dow went ahead and commercialized it and now it is the most
sophisticated chemical separation that the world has. It's computer
controlled, all high pressure and you can do very precise separations
with it. Because this is the man who conceptualized, designed it, told
them what the limitations would be, eventually, on it he was the ideal
man to take the technology and perfect it.

So we were able to use their basic technology and develop a separation
system for taking the rhodium tri-chloride (we actually separated five
different species in the commercial rhodium tri-chloride). What this is
all about is the word "metal" is like the word "army". You can't have a
one man army. The word metal refers to a conglomerate material. It has
certain properties, electrical conductivity, heat conduction and all
these other aspects of it.

When you dissolve the metals in acid you get a solution that is clear
without solids. You assume it's a free ion but when you are dealing with
Nobel elements it's still not a free ion, it's still what is called
cluster chemistry.

Back since the 1950's there has been a whole area of research in
colleges called cluster chemistry; catalytic materials. But what happens
is the metal- metal bonds are still retained by the material. So if you
buy rhodium tri- chloride from Johnson, Matthew and Engelhardt you are
actually getting Rh 12 Cl 36 or Rh 15 Cl 45. You really aren't getting
RhCl 3. There is a difference between the metal-metal bonding material
and the free ion. And so what you are buying when you buy it is cluster
chemistry; you are not getting free ions.

When you put it in for analytical instrumentation to analyze it, it is
actually analyzing the metal-metal bonds of the cluster. It is not
really analyzing the free ions.

I heard that General Electric was building fuel cells using rhodium and
iridium. So I made contacts with their fuel cell people back in
Massachusetts and traveled back there to meet with them. They had three
attorneys meet with us and the GE people were there. The attorneys were
there to protect the GE people because a lot of people say they have
technologies and they meet with them then after the meeting they sue
them claiming that GE stole their technology. Then to defend themselves
GE has to divulge what their technology really is. So GE is very
skeptical when you say that you have something new. They bring in their
high faluting attorneys to really screen you.

After about an hour they said "these guys are for real. You attorneys
can leave". Because they had had the explosions also. They knew that
when they buy the commercial rhodium tri-chloride that it analyzes very
well. But to make it ready to go into their fuel cells they have to do
effusions on it using salt effusions where they melt the salt and put
the metal in with it to disperse it further. They know when they do that
that the metal doesn't analyze as well any more.

So when we told them that we had material that didn't analyze at all
they could conceive how this was possible. They had never seen it but
they said we are interested. Now these are the people who build
analytical instrumentation, GE. They said "Dave, why don't you just make
a bunch of rhodium for us and send it to us and we'll mount it in our
fuel cell technology. [What is the mechanism of conversion of monatomic
rhodium to metallic rhodium in these fuel cells?] We'll see if it works
in a place where only rhodium works. No other metal has ever been found
which will perform the catalysis in the hydrogen evolving technology of
the fuel cell other than rhodium and platinum. And rhodium is unique
compared to platinum because rhodium does not poison with carbon
monoxide and platinum does.

They said "Dave we will just run it to see if it's a hydrogen evolving
catalyst and if it is then we will see if it is carbon monoxide stable
and if it is then it's rhodium or it's a rhodium alternative. So we
worked for about six months and refined that amount of material and we
re-refined it and re- refined it. We wanted to be absolutely sure that
this was really clean stuff. We didn't want any problems with this. We
sent it back to Tony LaConte at GE.

GE by that time had sold their fuel cell technology to United
Technologies who already had a fuel cell technology. So all the GE fuel
cell people had to go work for United Technologies and since United
Technologies already had their in house people the GE people were not
integrated into the existing teams. So all the GE people were junior
people. They weren't senior any more. So after a certain period of
months they all quit and left United Technologies. Well Jose Geener, who
was the head of fuel cells at United Technologies, quit also and went to
set up his own firm called Geener Incorporated in Waltham Massachusetts.
Tony and all the GE people went with him.

By the time our material gets there they've their own company set up in
Waltham Massachusetts so we contract with them to build the fuel cells
for us. When our material was sent to them the rhodium, as received, was
analyzed to not have any rhodium in it. Yet when they mounted it on
carbon in their fuel cell technology and ran the fuel cell for several
weeks it worked and it did what only rhodium would do. And it was carbon
monoxide stable.

After three weeks they shut the fuel cells down and they take the
electrodes out and sent them back to the same place that said there was
no rhodium in the original sample and now there is over 8% rhodium in
the rhodium. What happens is it begins to nucleate on the carbon. It
actually begins to grow metal- metal bonds. So now there was metallic
rhodium showing on the carbon where before there was no rhodium.

So these GE people said "Dave, if you are the first one to discover
this, if you are the first one to explain how to make it in this form,
if you are the first one to tell the world that it exists, then you can
get a patent on this.'" I said "I'm not interested in patenting this."
Then they told me that if someone else discovered it and patented it,
even though I was using it every day, they could stop me from doing it.
I said "well, maybe I should patent it." So in March of 1988 we filed
U.S. and world wide patents on Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements.

Now that is a mouth full, so to make it short we called it ORMES. You
have ORME gold, ORME palladium, ORME iridium, ORME ruthenium, ORME
osmium or ORMES.

When we were doing this patent procedure the patent office said "Dave,
we need more precise data, we need more exact data, we need more
information about this conversion to this white powder state. So one of
the problems we had is when you make this white powder and you bring it
out into the atmosphere, it really starts gaining weight. I'm not
talking about a little bit of weight, I'm talking about 20-30%. [This is
not explained elsewhere. What does it mean?] Now that normally would be
called absorbtion of atmospheric gasses; the air is reacting with it and
causing weight gain but not 20 or 30 percent.

But nonetheless we had to answer the patent office. We had to come up
with exact data for the patent office. So what we did is use this
machine called thermo-gravimetric analysis. This is a machine that has
total atmospheric control of the sample. You can oxidize it,
hydro-reduce it and anneal it while continually weighing the sample
under a controlled atmosphere. Everything is all sealed. We were getting
short on funding and couldn't afford to buy one so we leased one from
the Bay Area from [Berean] Corporation. They sent it in to us and we set
it up on computer controls.

We heated the material at one point two degrees per minute and cooled it
at two degrees per minute. What we found is when you oxidize the
material it weighs 102%, when you hydro-reduce it it weighs 103%. So far
so good. No problem. But when it turns snow white it weighs 56%. Now
that's impossible.

When you anneal it and it turns white it only weighs 56% of the
beginning weight. If you put that on a silica test boat and you weigh
it, it weighs 56%. If you heat it to the point that it fuses into the
glass, it turns black and all the weight return. So the material hadn't
volitized away. It was still there; it just couldn't be weighed any
more. That's when everybody said this just isn't right; it can't be.

Do you know that when we heated it and cooled it and heated it and
cooled it and heated it and cooled it under helium or argon that when we
cooled it it would weigh three to four hundred percent of it's beginning
weight and when we heated it it would actually weigh less than nothing.
If it wasn't in the pan, the pan would weigh more than the pan weighs
when this stuff is in it.

Keep in mind these are highly trained people running this
instrumentation and they would come in and say take a look at this. This
makes no sense at all. Now this machine is so precisely designed and
controlled that they actually have a magnetic material that you can
actually put into this machine that is non magnetic when it goes in the
machine and at 300 degrees it becomes magnetic. It actually is a strong
magnet. Then after you get up to 900 degrees it loses it's magnetism.
And you can actually see if the interreaction of the magnetism with the
magnetic field of the heating element caused any change in weight.

The heating element is bi-filar wound. It goes round and round the
sample then you reverse it and wind it right back up so all the current
runs against itself all the time.

So when a wire flows electricity there is a magnetic field that forms
around it but then you run the wire right next to it going in the other
direction it forms a magnetic field in the other direction and the idea
is that the two fields will cancel. Now this is the kind of wiring that
is used in a television to cancel all magnetic fields.

The designers of this machine wanted to eliminate all magnetic field
aspects to this. When we put the magnetic material in the sample and ran
it with the magnetic material there was no response at all; there was no
change in weight when the material became magnetic or lost it's
magnetism. Yet when our material is put in there and it turns white it
goes to 56% of its beginning weight. If you shut the machine off and let
it cool it is exactly 56%. If you heated it, it would go less than
nothing and if you cooled it it would go three to four hundred percent
but it always goes back to a steady 56%.

Now we contacted [Berean] in the Bay Area and said "look this just
doesn't make any sense". There's something wrong with this machine; I
mean something isn't right. Every time we use the machine it works fine
unless we make the pure mono-atomic material and when we do it turns
snow white and doesn't work correctly any more. And [Berean] looked over
our results and said "you know Mr. Hudson if you were working with the
cooling of the material we would say it is superconducting. But inasmuch
as you are heating the material we don't know what you've got."

I decided well, I have had to learn chemistry and I have had to learn
physics and now I've got to learn the physics of superconductors. So I
borrowed a bunch of graduate books on superconductivity and I began to
read about superconductors.
 

One thing we did is we took our white powder; now if this is a
superconductor we should be able to put this white powder down on the
table and should be able to hook up a volt meter here to it. You know
your volt meter has got two electrodes and you put it on a wire and turn
on the battery pack and it tells you the resistance in the wire.

Well if you touch the powder with one electrode on one end and the other
on the other end and turn on the electricity you just figure the needle
is going to go boing, just like this, right? Perfect conductivity,
right? Nothing, zilch, nothing; no conductivity at all. So we think
what's going on here?
 

David Hudson: Superconductors

So what we found out is that the definition of a superconductor is that
it does not allow any voltage potential or any magnetic field to exist
inside the sample. So by definition a superconductor will not allow any
voltage potential to exist inside the sample. To get electricity off of
a wire requires voltage and to get electricity back on the wire requires
a voltage. So it cannot receive electricity from a wire, it cannot
receive the energy of the superconductor back on the wire without
voltage.

So now I know your question is "so what the heck good is this stuff?" If
you can't get energy into it and you can't get energy back out of it,
what the heck good is it? Well what you come to find out is that in the
superconductor there is a single frequency of light, just like a laser,
that is flowing perpetually inside the superconductor. And when it flows
inside the superconductor it produces around it what is called a
Meissner field which is unique to superconductors.

A Meissner field excludes all external magnetic fields from the sample.
What color must it be? It has to be white. Anything that excludes all
light from the sample has to be white. Anything that absorbs all light
has to be black. If it reflects all light it has to be
white; now I'm talking about a pure single element superconductor. It
has to be white when it is superconducting.

What you have to do is you have to take a radio frequency transmitter
and you have to resonance frequency tune the superconductor to match the
frequency of the wire. [More likely tune the wire to match the
superconductor]. So the wire now is oscillation with its electron waves
exactly the same as the superconductor. At that point the electronic
pair can go on the superconductor with no push at all. Because electrons
are continually moving over here on the wire and they are seeking the
path of least resistance. And so when you have them in perfect
synchronization with the superconductor they go on with no push at all
as pairs.

Now this takes a little explaining because one spin one half electron
plus one spin one half electron are two particles. Yet when these two
particles become perfectly paired as mirror images of each other they
lose all particle aspects and they become nothing but pure light. This
doesn't make sense either, does it? But that's the way it is. Spin one
half plus spin one half gives you spin one which now is pure light.
Trust me it is so. So they can't go on as individual electrons, they go
on as light.

Now the crazy thing about electrons is that one electron can exist in
one space time and if it moves to another space time it gives off light
or absorbs light. It's moving from one space time to another. Now we
have light, which is two electrons. Light doesn't exist in any space
time. You can put 50 billion lights all in the same space time and it is
OK.

Now we don't have a conductor. A conductor you put electricity on the
wire, you got to take the electricity off or it won't flow. You've got
to ground it, right? With a super conductor it's not. It can go on and
go on and go on and go on...and it doesn't have to come off. Now if you
want to take it off you have to put a wire next to it and you have to
resonance frequency tune the wire to match the superconductor. And when
it's in perfect harmony you apply a voltage and poof off goes the
energy.

So if you literally can make a superconductor that stretches from
Portland to New York City and you put energy on over here for two or
three or four days. You don't have to take it off over there. It's ok
you can keep putting it in. And when they want it in New York they can
resonance frequency tune the wire, apply voltage and suck it out. It
gets a free ride from Portland all the way to New York. On this quantal
wave of the superconductor, as light not electricity.

How do you measure it if it has no voltage in it? How is it possible to
get a machine that can measure this light? And guess what, it can't be
done. Cause every piece of instrumentation man has ever figured out
always uses a differential it must reflect and yet a superconductor has
no voltage. You literally start the superconductor flowing by applying a
magnetic field. It responds to the magnetic field by flowing light
inside of it and building a bigger Meissner field around it.

You can put your magnet down and walk away. You come back a hundred
years later and it is still flowing exactly the same as when you left.
It doesn't ever slow down. It excludes, not 99.9999, it excludes
100.000000 of all external magnetic fields. There is absolutely no
resistance in the sample; it is perpetual motion. It runs for ever and
ever and ever and ever.
 

David Hudson: Sakarov's theory of gravity

The Russian physicist Sakarov said in the 1960s that we are looking for
gravity and we are never going to find it as a magnetic field. Gravity
is what is produced when protons, neutrons and electrons inter-react
with the vacuum energy. That energy that is everywhere in the universe,
timeless. That energy that is there like the ether. When you pump out
all heat and all matter; everything, there still is energy there. It's
called the vacuum energy. When the protons, neutrons and electrons
inter-react with that energy they produce gravity. If there is no
matter, there is no gravity. Interesting theory.

Everyone kind of ignored it for a while. Then this fellow by the name of
Hal Puthoff down in Texas who began life over here in the Bay Area in
California doing distant viewing experimentation. Now he's working down
in Austin, Texas. [H. E. Puthoff works at the Institute for Advanced
Studies at Austin in Austin, Texas.] And he actually developed the
mathematics for Sakarov's theory of gravity. He published this in 1993
in one of the top science journals. [It was actually published in the
March 1, 1989 issue of Physical Review A. The paper is titled "Gravity
as a zero-point-fluctuation force" by H. E. Puthoff.]

In the mathematics (he actually does all his mathematical calculations)
it figures out that when matter begins to react in two dimensions, as
opposed to inter-reacting in three dimensions, (which by definition a
superconductor is a resonance coupled quantum oscillator resonating in
two dimensions, not three dimensions) he comes up with the mathematics
which shows when it begins to inter-react in two dimensions that it
should theoretically loose four ninths of its gravitational weight. Did
you know that five ninths is 56%, exactly.

So I decided that I've got to go down and see Hal Puthoff. I've got to
take all my data and go down and see Hal Puthoff. I said "Hal, we have
the experimental confirmation that, in fact, your mathematics are
absolutely correct. In addition Sakarov's theory of gravity is
absolutely correct. Because this material only weighs 56% when it goes
to the superconducting state. And Hal Puthoff says "Dave, you do realize
that gravity is what determines space/time. And he said "Dave, when this
material only weighs 56% of it's true mass you do realize that this
material is actually bending space/time." Now if you think about this it
seems correct. He said "Dave, what we really need is a material that
totally bends space time." "A material that has no gravitational
attraction at all." Less than zero. It's what he called exotic matter in
his papers. I said "Hal, do you realize that if you heat this material
it has no gravitational attraction at all?"

I've been reading papers on the vacuum energy. Do you know that there is
an overlap between the thermal spectrum and the zero point spectrum; the
two of them overlap. And so if you heat something it should inter-react
with the zero point energy. Well this material because it was resonating
in two dimensions, when you heat it it literally loses all gravitational
attraction. You know what Hal Puthoff said to me? He said "Dave at that
point you shouldn't be able to see the material." I said "correct, you
can look in the pan, through the quartz tube and there is nothing in the
pan. But the pan isn't weighing what it would weigh if the stuff wasn't
in it.

Now I had mistakenly assumed that the material was just resonating at a
frequency we didn't perceive. He said "Dave, theoretically it should be
withdrawing from these three dimensions." " It should not even be in
these three dimensions." I said "wow."

He said "Dave, you have to devise an experiment where you can do this:
while it is not there, pass an arm through the sample pan." "So if it is
there and resonating at a frequency that you don't perceive you knock it
out of the pan." Because when you cool it back down and it begins to
reappear it always appears in the same shape it was in before it left.
And he says "if it's there you're going to knock it out of the pan, then
when you cool it down, it's going to return back in exactly the place it
was before. That's proof that it left these three dimensions." And he
said "Dave, if you do that you will never ever want for money." Do you
think a stealth plane is really important? What happens when it can
literally disappear?

Now, what are some of the other aspects of a superconductor? You see in
1988 I not only filed a patent on ORMES I filed a patents on S-ORMES.
The resonant coupled quantum oscillating system of many atoms of these
ORMES. I have 11 patents on ORMES and another 11 patents on S-ORMES. I
have 22 patents.

What are some of the other aspects of a superconductor? A
superconductor; how do you prove it's a superconductor? You literally
take a constant magnetic field and you pass the material into the
constant magnetic field. If it's not a superconductor if you apply a
magnetic field you get positive inductance. If you graph it, applied
magnetic field vs. Inductance. Magnetic field vs. Inductance. [DH waves
hands depicting a graph] If it's a perfect insulator, you'll run totally
parallel. No matter how much magnetic field you apply, no inductance. If
it's a perfect conductor, just the littlest amount of magnetic field on
a perfect conductor will go straight up. So between here and here some
place, most metals graph about like this.

If it's a superconductor as you apply a magnetic field it goes negative.
It literally eats the magnetic field. It feeds on the magnetic field and
takes it inside itself. Negative inductance in a positive applied
magnetic field is the proof of a superconductor.

In other words if you had a machine that was a superconductor when it
passed by ordinary power lines, it would cancel the voltage potential of
the power lines. Or if it passed by a home that had electric appliances
it would literally turn them off and cause them to flicker and go off.

Do you realize that if you had a machine that would do that, it could
literally move in space time is what Hal was saying? That it could
disappear and reappear in space time. It could withdraw from these three
dimensions into a fifth dimension where there is no distance, and there
is no time between here and other star systems and then reappear out of
that in that star system. Have you ever heard of anything that does
that?

Anyway, the material is very very important. The material and the way it
works is very very important. Because we are talking about controlling
gravity and we are talking about controlling space/time.

Now let me give you an analogy. If, if it is possible for me to shrink
your molecular body down small enough, miniaturization that would make
you so tiny that you could climb inside of an atom, you'd be down in the
world of the quanta where there is no time forward and there is no time
reverse: everything is interchangeable. There is no time as we know it.
You would become an immortal. You literally could live forever in the
world of the quanta.

A superconductor is billions and billions and billions of atoms all
acting like one big macro atom. And so literally you make yourself a
vessel that you can climb inside of that superconducts and you energize
it and you exclude all external magnetic fields including gravity. And
you are now in this world but you are not of this world. Hear me. In
this world but not of this world. And literally by just heating it you
can literally disappear from this space time. Just like that, gone. Now
you will still be able to see everybody there, they just can't see you
any more. It's like being above the water and looking down in the water
at the fish. You're not in their world. But you can see them.

[Someone from the audience interrupts with a question.] "But you
wouldn't have any thoughts either because they produce electromagnetic
fields." [Big silence from Dave Hudson. Then person from audience says]
"You would just have pure awareness." [Dave Hudson recovers by saying]
"That is correct." As you can see this becomes very philosophical very
quickly. When you come to understand as we did that literally we decided
well gee if we have this analytical capability, and we can
quantitatively and qualitatively analyze this stuff where else is it?

So we went down to A. J. Bayless and got ourselves some cow's brains and
some pig's brains. We carborized these brains in fuming sulfuric acid.
That was a really raunchy thing to do but it was the only way we knew to
do it. We weren't organic chemists, we were inorganic chemists so we
destroyed the carbon, carborized it, added nitric-nitric-nitric acid,
kept taking it down to fumes of sulfuric more nitric, fumes of sulfuric,
more nitric till we got rid of all the carbon. Then water, water, water
till we got rid of all the nitrous compounds. Then we did a metal
sulfate analysis. Did you know that over five percent by dry matter
weight of the brain tissue is rhodium and iridium in the high spin
state?

Did you know that the way cells communicate with each other is by
superconductivity? That the U.S. Naval Research Facility knows that the
way cells communicate with each other is by superconductivity? That they
have actually measured it using SQUIDS? Superconducting Quantum
Interference Devices with a superconducting ring around the body. And
they have seen by this procedure that literally light flowed between
cell to cell to cell to cell. Did you know that your nerve impulses are
not electricity that they travel closer to the speed of sound than they
do to the speed of light? And electricity travels closer to the speed of
light? Do you know what speed the superconducting wave travels? The
speed of sound. This, in fact, is what is in your body that we call the
consciousness. It's what separates you from a computer.

It literally is the light of life. This is that part of your body that
has been there all of this time, that scientists can't find because
their instruments can't see it. They call it carbon because it has no
absorption or emission spectra and they assume therefore that it is
carbon when, in fact, it isn't carbon. That there are 11 elements that
it could be but primarily rhodium and iridium are the elements that are
in your body right now. And that literally they resonance connect and
literally flow the light of life perpetually in your body. And around
your body you have a non polar magnetic field which is called the
Meissner field or they refer to it as the aura.

That literally these are the spirit atoms in your body. These are the
atoms that are in resonant harmony and resonating with the vacuum
energy. And the vacuum energy is another dimension where there is no
time. Everything that ever existed and everything that ever will exist
is registered in the vacuum. And I will tell you now, my friends, that
when you meet your God, you will meet him in the vacuum. That is where
all matter came from, that is where all matter originated and that is
where everything is recorded. And your connection is through these
resonant oscillators that are in quantum resonance with the vacuum
energy. That is what brings the light of life from the world of the
quanta up into the macro body you call your own physical being.

These atoms, in a macro state and dried, look like a white powder. But
actually if you look at them under a microscope they look like glass.
You can actually heat the white powder to 1160 degrees under a vacuum
and it forms a glass just like that window glass. Another form the
element can exist in.

When you come to understand that each of these atoms is resonating with
the vacuum energy. You can't harness a single atom. You can't put reins
on it and say work for me; this perpetual motion machine. But when one
atom is resonating back and forth in two dimensions it creates a
quantile wave that comes off of it. The next atom nestles in that wave
and perpetuates the wave.

The atoms are actually too far apart to have any chemistry and yet they
are sitting at a distance resonating in perfect unison, harmony. The
energy that literally rolls around one atom for ever and ever and ever:
did you ever ask yourself why an atom never runs down? It is because it
is dipping into the zero point energy all of the time. But now you have
each atom in resonant harmony with each other; each atom dipping into
the zero point energy. So now you've got billions and billions and
billions of them doing it for you. So what you now have is a perpetual
motion machine. You have something that literally is running perpetually
on zero point energy. You actually can build a ring of this material and
it will flow and respond to the earth's magnetic field.

For example, did you know that a single element superconductor, a type
one superconductor, will literally respond to a magnetic field of two
times ten to the minus fifteenth ergs? And do you know that there is ten
to the eighteenth power ergs in a gauss?

And the earth's magnetic field, that the compass aligns with is about
point five gauss? So an erg is the measure of the magnetic field around
one electron. And a superconductor responds to a magnetic field of two
times ten to the minus fifteenth ergs?

Gosh. Literally, when you think, it registers. So when you are working
with this material your thoughts are registering in the material.

In fact, some of you women will get upset with me when I say this but we
actually came to know these as female elements. Cause what we did is we
said "you know we're going to flip these things. We're just going to
overcome these things. Cause if you just put enough energy to them you
can make them do what you want, right? Sure. We purchased what is called
an arc furnace. We took about thirty grams of this white powder and we
put it in the furnace. This furnace had an insulated crucible; it had a
copper crucible in it with water all around it to keep it cool. You
bring a lid to set down on top of it and there's a tungsten rod that
hangs down in it. And it actually runs a little arc welder which you
strike from the tungsten electrode to the copper.

And in this arc you sit there and you stir with the electrode back and
forth, back and forth till you literally melt everything that is there.
Now what we did was we pumped out all of the air, we back filled it with
helium gas, for a plasma gas, and we struck the arc. It went bzzp, like
that and shut off. We opened up the arc furnace, no tungsten electrode.
Now this tungsten electrode is about the size of my thumb. Tungsten is
the filament material that they make light bulbs out of. The people who
built this furnace said we could use it for thirty five to forty times
with no deterioration of the electrode. We could burn it for minutes and
minutes and minutes and minutes. We didn't even get a second out of this
thing. So we sent to the manufacturer, got another electrode put it back
in it, put back on, closed it back up, vacuumed the air out, put in the
inert gas, struck another arc, bzzp, shut off. Opened it up again and
the tungsten electrode is all molten into this powder.

What we found when we analyzed the powder after we did this, it wasn't
the same element it was before we did this. And what we also found is
that there was an amplification of heat about two thousand times. It was
not chemical heat, it was nuclear heat. What we found is all the wiring
in the laboratory was beginning to crumble and fall apart. You could go
up to copper wires and do that and they would just go to powder.

The glass beaker sitting in the laboratory near the furnace was getting
full of little air pockets in the glass and when we would pick them up
they would fall apart. And that's radiation damage. There is no other
explanation for it. I'll show you tomorrow that Berkeley-Brookhaven has
confirmed that this is 25,000 electron volt photons. [I don't remember
being shown this] Gamma level radiation comes out of these high spin
atoms when you throw too much energy at them. So like all females if you
tell them you will force them you will get absolutely nothing, but if
you give them what they want, they will give you what you want. So you
cater to these elements; you don't fight these elements. These elements
are alive. And what you have to do is give them the chemistries that
they want, cooperate with them, coerce them, give them what they want
and they will literally go back to the low spin state and you can make
them into metals, or you can use them in the high spin state.

Now everything was pretty interesting now till my uncle came up with
this book in 1991 called Secrets of the Alchemists. I said I'm not
interested in reading about alchemy, this is when the church was
involved in it and everything, this was all perverted, I'm not
interested in that, I want to know about chemistry and physics. He said
"Dave, it talks about a white powder of gold." I said "really?" And so I
began to look into alchemy. And the philosopher's stone, the container
of the light of life was the white powder of gold.

Now I said "is there a chance that this white powder of gold that I
have, could it be the white powder of gold they're talking about? Or is
it possible that there is two white powders of gold? Now the description
says it is the container of the essence of life; it flows the light of
life. Well that we had proven. It's a superconductor. It flows the light
that is in your body. They claimed that it perfects the cells of the
body.

Well I can show you tomorrow Bristol-Myers-Squib research that shows
that this material inter-reacts with DNA, correcting the DNA. All the
carcinogenic damage, all the radiation damage, all is corrected from
these elements in the presence of the cell. They don't chemically
inter-react with it, they just correct the DNA.

I really became intrigued with this stuff. What would happen if we give
this material to people? It's not metal-metal bonding so it doesn't have
heavy metal properties. So first of all we got a golden retriever and
gave the material to the golden retriever. This golden retriever had
tick fever, valley fever and a large abscess here on his side. And none
of the veterinarians could find any medicine that would get rid of it
due to the combination of all three diseases. And they just gave up;
they weren't going to cure him. We began giving him one cc injections of
one milligram of the white powder. One shot in the tumor and one shot in
the blood stream. After a week and a half the tick fever was gone, the
valley fever was gone, the tumor has shrunk down and disappeared. So we
stopped the injections. About a week later it starts coming back again.
So we start giving the injections again and it shrunk back down again.
This time we continued about a week longer and then when we stopped it
never came back. The dog felt great.

So then the doctor we were working with said you know this is really
incredible stuff. He said you know I have an assistant that works in my
doctor's office who is a day or two away from death with aids. He is
being fed intravenously right now. He can't speak, he can't dress
himself, he is dying. So he said "I'm going to start giving him just a
little bit of this material and see what happens. A week and a half
later he had pulled out all the feed lines out of his arms, he was
feeding himself normally, getting dressed on his own, just doing great.
A month and a half later he was on an airplane going back to a family
wedding in Indiana and nobody even knows he has aids.

This doctor says "Dave, this is like a magic material." So he got a
patient who had KS; Karposi Sarcoma which is the cancer you get all over
your skin. This man had over thirty lesions all over his body and we
began to give him one milliliter injections into his blood stream. After
a month and a half there was no more active KS on his body. One
milligram per day! Now if you are familiar with KS there is only one
treatment and that is radiation treatment. And after a while you get the
maximum amount of radiation and they have to discontinue the treatment,
then you get worse and die. And this totally got rid of KS lesions.

Then we started working with another patient who was actually not gay.
This woman had received the aids virus in an invitro fertilization that
was done down at the University of Arizona. There were ten women who
received the semen from this patient who had the HIV virus. She was the
only one who got aids. She had it for 11 years. She was really starting
to go down hill. Her white blood cell count and her T cell count were
really classic. We gave it to her orally for the first time and
basically there was no change in her white blood cells and her T cells.
Now when we give it by injection the white blood cell count goes from
2200 to 6500 in an hour and a half. Unbelievable.

When we take it orally nothing happens to the white blood cell count.
Which is the only analytical battle we have available. After a month she
said "I want the injection; I want to see this increase my white blood
cell count." So we prepared her a shot and she took the material by
injection. At the same time we gave her the shot, we pulled blood
samples and sent them to [Noing?] Laboratories in southern California
for an infected virons per milliliter of blood analysis. She took the
first inject ions.

She got high fevers, just like everyone does, so we said cut it in half.
She cut it in half, (actually the doctor cut it in half) the next day
she took it and she went into seizures and she died. I just found out

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By that time we got our analysis back from [Noing?] Laboratories and it
said the infected viron count was so low that this woman shouldn't even
know she had aids. Now we didn't do an analysis up front so we decided
well we'll start giving this to people after we do a lab analysis. We
worked with a man who had an infected viron count of 57,000. He was so
weak that he could hardly walk; he used a cane. The doctor said he gave
him two to three weeks to live. He took this material orally and it took
about 60 days to begin to drop the infected viron count. After 60 days
it went down 30% every thirty days. By the end of seven months it was so
low they couldn't even detect it any more in his blood. And that's
taking 50 milligrams per day orally.

Now do understand, I'm not a doctor. I have no interest in becoming a
doctor. What I wanted to know is, is it possible that this stuff works?
That is all my interest was. There was one doctor in North Phoenix that
I gave two bottles of the dried material to and he gave it to two cancer
patients. One was forty two years old and the other was fifty seven
years old. They both had breast cancer. The forty two year old woman had
had her breast removed two years earlier and had extensive radiation
treatments. After two years she was having pain in her neck, pain in her
ribs. She went to a chiropractor that couldn't help her. She finally
ended up with an oncologist who said she had cancer in her neck, her
shoulder, her back, her spine, and your ribs. He said it is stage four,
get your affairs in order. We can give you chemo-therapy but you are
going to die.

The woman went to this doctor. He gave her these capsules which was a
month and a half worth of pills. She took this material, at a hundred
milligrams, for a month and a half. At the end of the month and a half
she went back to the oncologist. She had no cancer anywhere in her body.
I didn't even know who the woman was. I had nothing to do with giving
her the material. I get this phone call and this woman says "Mr. Hudson,
I don't know who you are or what this material is, but it is really
fantastic material. And she told me the story.

The fifty seven year old woman it apparently didn't work on. We were
then back at the University of Chicago having cancer studies done with
mice. And what we found is about half the mice it killed of cancers but
the other half the cancers grew faster. But at the end of the study the
cancer researchers injected the mice with estrogen. Which should have
caused the cancers to even grow faster. Instead as soon as the estrone
hit their bodies; within twenty four hours all the cancers were gone.

Now I'm not presenting this to you as technical information. I'm
presenting this to you as my experience and what I can tell you about
it.

We also had a doctor in Florida who was giving it to a pancreatic cancer
patient, last November. He was dramatically losing weight. He did not
expect him to survive. So they were desperate for anything. He took this
for sixty days and has now gained all his weight back and is doing just
great today. The doctor doesn't understand it. He is just totally blown
away about how it could happen because nobody survives pancreatic
cancer.

This is not an anti-anything. This is not anti-aids. This is not anti-
cancer. This is pro-life. It literally is the spirit. The material is
not here to cure aids. The material is not here to cure cancer. The
material is here to perfect our bodies. It makes our bodies be in the
state they are supposed to be in. It is our own immune system that
fights and cures the disease. If you can correct your DNA at every cell
in your body. If you can correct the damage that's been done that
brought about the cancer, if you can correct the damage that has been
brought about by the virus, the aids; you literally will become a
perfected being. You will return back to the original healthy state you
were meant to be in.

This is not a medicine. This material is, in fact, a philosophical
material. It is here to enlighten and to raise the consciousness of
mankind. If in doing that it happens to cure diseases so be it. It's
real hard for most of us to understand that this is what it is all
about.

Tomorrow I will lay out all th physics that has happened since I filed my patent. I
will lay out all the theories about superconductivity and the high spin atoms. We will
come to see all the published literature; I will put it up on the
overhead projector where you can read the credentials; Brookhaven
National Laboratories, Oakridge National Laboratories, the Niels Bohr
Institute over in Copenhagen. You will see all the papers on
superconductivity in the body. You will see all the papers on literally
the light of life being the superconductor. And we will discuss in depth
the zero point energy, the vacuum energy, space/time, gravity. And I
will explain it to you, I think, clearly. And all of you will walk out
of here with a pretty good understanding of what gravity and space/time
really is. And how we are just a hologram; a picture show, ourselves. We
are not reality; even ourselves. Then we will go into the history of
this from four or five thousand BC to the Tigris-Euphrates valleys,
Zachariah Sitchin papers, to the Egyptian pharos and high priests. To
the Hebrews and the Bible. To the prophecies of Nostradamus, the Keys of
Enoch; all the prophesies relating to this material. And the prophecy
that it will be here by 1999; will be known to science

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I CAME ACROSS A LOT OF REFINERS IN THE PHOENIX AREA WHO WERE
WORKING WITH PRECIOUS METALS. They informed me that there were people who
were reproducing precious metals from natural sources. The technique involved using
cyanide to recover gold from old mining sites where they had dumped the tailings from
the mine.

Since I was a successful farmer, I could easily go into mining of this nature because I
had water trucks, road graders, earth movers and backhoes. The idea was to
accumulate gold and silver without having to pay taxes. Later, I became aware of how to
recover gold using the Heap Leach Cyanide System.

In any recovery operation, once you get down to hard pan, it just won't go any further, that
is when you are leaching soluble salts through the soil. The heap leach system moves
gold and silver solutes down to a plastic membrane where they collect as a slurry. This is
pumped up and recovered through your carbon and refining process.

In this recovery process, I was actually recovering gold and silver from this sludge and
fire assay when I found I was recovering something else which was causing losses in the
recovered gold and silver.

No one knew what this problem material was and since I was not a chemist or a
physicist, I had no idea. It had a specific gravity, it would recover in the molten lead just
as if it was gold or silver, it did not float out of the lead, but when I cupeld the lead down,
there was had nothing.

The people involved in mining and metallurgical work are familiar with this mystery
substance, giving it the name of 'ghost gold', it is anon-issuable, non-identifiable form of
gold. At this point, I became involved with a gentleman who does emission
spectroscopy, we then became aware of work done by under the auspices of the Soviet
Academy of Sciences.

Emission spectroscopy involves taking a carbon electrode and placing your sample on
that carbon electrode. You then run another carbon electrode down from above it and
you strike an arc. As the current burns the carbon electrodes and the sample in the
electric arc, the elements in the sample will ionize and give off specific light frequencies.
This is the basis of spectroscopic Analysis or DC Arc Emission Spectroscopy.

In this analysis, it is normally run for a period of about 10 to 15 seconds before the
carbon electrode burns away. American spectroscopists will tell you that anything that is
there will be ionized and will be read in thisemission spectroscopy. Our material
indicated it was iron, silica and aluminum.

It took me three years to get rid of the iron, silica and aluminum, once that was done, I
still had 98% of the material. This material on the DC arc did not indicate to be anything.
The material was taken back to Cornell University, where I worked with a gentleman who
helped me on analyze this mystery substance.

We used X-ray analysis with 8 different X-ray heads, tunneling microscopy, diffraction,
fluorescent microscopy, all these wonderful technologies, and the spectroscopist
confirmed the presence of iron, silica and aluminum. Once again, we worked to remove
these elements from the sample. When they no longer showed up on the spectroscopic
analysis, the spectroscopist pronounced that there was now nothing, yet there was still
material present. According to the Soviet Academy of Sciences, proper spectroscopic
analysis requires a 300 second burn instead of the 15 seconds as done in the US.
When you do this, you have to sheath the electrode with an inert gas to remove all
oxygen and prevent the electrode from burning away too fast. The equipment was setup
to use argon as the inert gas so they could achieve a 300 second burn.

Using this process, within the first 15 seconds, we got the standard readings of iron,
silica and aluminum and sometimes traces of calcium. After that, nothing else was read
until 90 seconds into the burn, where palladium began to read, at 110 seconds, platinum
began to read, at 130 seconds, ruthenium began to read, at 140-150 seconds rhodium
began to read, at 190, iridium began to read, at 220 osmium begins to read. This is
called fractional vaporization by the Russians.

When you understand that the boiling temperature of iron is to these elements as the
boiling temperature of water is to iron. You can't get iron hotter than the boiling
temperature of water until all the water is gone. This is the basis of the cooling system in
your car, as long as there is water in the radiator, that motor never gets that hot, but once
that water is gone, only then can the metal get hot enough to approach the boiling
temperature of the iron.

The same applies to the carbon arc, all of the iron, silica and aluminum are taking off the
heat that the arc is putting into it, and so its not until all of that is gone, that you can reach
the temperatures of the denser elements.

The boiling temperature of these elements is about 5200 to 5300 degrees centigrade,
the maximum temperature of a DC arc is theoretically about 5450 to 5500 degrees
centigrade, measured at the center of the arc. The material sits on the electrode, so it
can't get to the maximum temperature of the arc. This material had to get rid of all its
impurities and all the energy of the arc had to literally be concentrated on the sample,
until the elements come off IN THE SEQUENCE of their boiling temperatures. The
lowest is palladium, followed by platinum, ruthenium, rhodium, etc. They come off all by
themselves at a time when nothing else can be in the sample.

Getting 600,000 to 700,000 counts of iridium versus a 12,000 count of carbon arc
background, we ran this material for 2 and « years, everyday, we prepared commercial
standards. We ran the standards and found they read correctly in the first 15 seconds.
As the electrode continues to burn, at 90 seconds, bang, here comes the palladium and
the following elements. About 85% of the reading occurs way out there towards the end
of the burn. In other words the people buying these precious metal standards are only
reading about 15% to 20% of the sample and assuming it is everything.

Short burn times are in error when used to determine standards, the Soviet Academy of
Sciences has the most advanced method currently known. Basically, (David must still be
referring to an analysis of off-the-shelf standards here) we find 6-8 oz per ton of
palladium, 12-13 oz per ton of platinum, 150 oz per ton of osmium, 200 oz per ton of
ruthenium, 600 oz. per ton of iridium, 1200 oz per ton of rhodium. (this was done using
spectroscopic analysis) The best deposit in the world is in South Africa, they are mining
1/3 of one ounce per ton. That's all the platinum group elements. They go a «mile down
in the ground and follow an 18 inch seam to get this material. I say there are about 2400
oz per ton of these precious elements instead of the 1/3 of one ounce that is currently
being recovered. No one else knows it is there and no one else can analyze for it.

The gentleman spectroscopist who helped me with this analysis winded up getting
starry-eyed and went off to Germany. There he studied at the Institute for Spectroscopy,
where he claimed he had found precious elements in natural materials, all of which I paid
for. I have since learned to protect my knowledge and willingness to share so openly with
contracts. We ran these experiments for 2 and « years and have now created
commercially pure standards which were helping us to perfect this analytical technique. I
later went to a chemist who I was told was one of the best analytical chemists that the
state of Arizona had to offer. This was all explained to the chemist and he became so
interested that he volunteered his own time to help research this phenomenon.

This chemist worked with me for over 3 and « years at no charge. Basically, we were
running the procedures that the Soviet Academy recommended. When we were
finished, we had separated, through analytical chemistry, 6-8 oz. per ton of palladium,
12-13 oz. per ton of platinum, 150 oz. per ton of osmium, 200 oz. per ton of ruthenium,
600 oz. per ton of iridium, 1200 oz. per ton of rhodium, the same values as found in
spectroscopic analysis.

From the analytical chemical tests, all the solution colors were correct, all the oxidation
reduction potentials were basically correct, all the physical properties were correct, but
when you finish as an analytic alchemist, you take the separated, purified elements and
send them to a spectroscopic lab to confirm your findings.

Using rhodium as an example, it produces a crimson blood-red-colored salt, when you
precipitate rhodium out of solution, you add bromate as the oxidizer, you do a
neutralization of the acid and the hydroxide precipitates out of the solution, you filter it,
dry it, oxidize it, hydrogen reduce it and you should have metal. We did all this, heated it
in a tube furnace under oxygen at 850 degrees centigrade for an hour to dehydrate it
until we had this red brown oxide.

We took 1/3 of the sample out and put it in a beaker and sealed it. We then placed the
other 2/3 back into the tube furnace, hydrogen reduced it until we got a gray powder, just
like rhodium is supposed to look.

We take that out, take half the sample, place in another vial and seal it, returning the
other half of this gray powder to the furnace where it is cooked at 1000 degrees under
argon, and it turns SNOW WHITE. We take that out, put it in another vial, seal it and
send all the three sealed samples out for spectroscopic analysis.

The analysis was done by a commercial firm called SpectraChem in Los Angeles, they
do most of the work for the aerospace industry, the man who runs the instrument is the
president of the Spectroscopic Association.

The red brown dioxide analyzed to be iron, the reduced hydrogen material was
aluminum and calcium, and the white material, annealed under argon was calcium and
silicon The point being that there was no consistency in the analysis of the three
materials even though they were all three the same element, that material is 99.9% pure
rhodium. The commercial standards that you buy are not technically correct. The chloride
salt, the sulfate salt that you buy from Johnson/Massey and Englehart are not technically
correct. The material like tri-chloride that is sold as RHCL3 (rhodium trichloride), is in
fact a salt that is closer to RH12CL36, it still has metal/metal bonds. When you add a
reductant to the solution, the chlorine drops away, but you still have metallics, because
they have never NOT been metallics...

These colloidal particles begin to nucleate and come out of solution as metal, but they've
never NOT been metal. Even in solution and filtered through a millipore filter, they have
the metal/metal bonds and they never lose those.

In the world of an atom, we found that if you disaggregate the rhodium to the
monoatomic state, the last particle you come up with is HRHCL4, which is the acid
trichloride, when you take away the chlorine, you have hydrogen rhodide, a rhodide
actually is a minus one, not a plus one.

When you dissolve metallic gold into aqua regia, you convert to chloride to get rid of all
the nitric. All you really have is a cluster of metallic gold. I don't care how long you boil
this, it never will dissolve to the monoatom. The diatonic bonds of gold are so profoundly
strong, and if you really think about it, gold has an electronic structure of 5d106s1 and
that in itself tells you it will never go to the monoatom.

All of the other S1 elements are lithium, sodium, potassium, rubidium, cesium, these are
explosively reactive substances that we call the alkaline metals. If you throw them in
water, they burn. Gold has the same structure as these alkaline metals. Gold gets a hold
of itself and it will not let go. You can get it down to the diatom, but it will never go farther
than that, so the best that you can ever hope for, is AU2CL6. You never lose the diatonic
bond, and that's why when you refine gold, you always get 99.9% recovery, because its
real easy to recover, it never loses its metallic character.

But if you know how to take those metallic bonds apart and get monoatomic gold, which
is what mother nature did by literally dissolving it to a single atom when it comes up out
of the earth, about 98% of the gold comes up as monoatomic gold, about 2% comes up
as metal. A diamond and carbon are the same element, a diamond is a high energy
crystalline form of carbon. We have developed our analytical method over the centuries
to recover the yellow gold. When it is dissolved to the monoatomic, it never comes back
as yellow gold, it is not metallic and it has no metallic character. In fact, one of the things
we did is we submitted the material to thermo-gravimetric analysis, out in Palo Alto.

When you produce monoatomic gold, it is kind of gray-black as hydrogen oride, under
an inert gas, you can heat it and the proton lets go, in the same way that amorphous
silicon is produced as selane to amorphous silicon. It is SIH where this is HAU. When
that proton is annealed away, it goes to a snow-white powder, it loses 4/9ths of its
weight.

How can it lose 4/9ths of its weight and yet if you take it back to metal, it GAINS BACK
the 4/9ths of the weight? In fact, in the heating of this, the heating coil is actually around
this quartz tube to control the atmosphere so nothing is interfering. The heating coil is
BIFILAR WOUND to cancel all magnetic fields.

Yet, this material as we kept annealing it over and over, this white material would literally
levitate, weighing less than the pan it was sitting in, if it wasn't in there, the pan would
weigh more than when the powder was in it.

In cooling, sometimes it would go to 200% or 300% the weight, heat it and it goes to
less than nothing and cool it and it weighs 300% more than what you started with. This
only happens in this white powder form using this thermo-gravimetric analyzer. They
actually give you magnetic standards that you put in the machine and heat it and it lets
go its oxide as chloride, you can weigh it as you do this and everything works fine.You
take 100% of gold and make the hydrogen oride pellet and it weighs 103%, but you
anneal it and it goes to 5/9ths or about 62-63% of the beginning weight, and yet, the
mass has never left, its still there.

The manufacturer says if you were cooling the sample, you must have a superconductor,
but because you are heating the sample, this stuff makes no sense at all. This led us to
investigate the properties of superconductivity.
 

David Hudson: Properties of M-state

Basically, the powder should allow the flow of current with no resistance if it is truly superconducting. This was attempted with a voltmeter and nothing happened, we learned that a superconductor is a material that has a single wavelength within the sample, much like a laser, it has a single frequency within it. When you hook up the electrodes to the superconducting material, by definition a superconductor does not allow any voltage potential to exist in the sample. It will sustain a perfect amperage with NO voltage.

To get the electron off the wire and INTO the SAMPLE, it takes voltage, to get the electron out of the sample and INTO the WIRE it again takes voltage.

But the sample doesn't allow voltage if it is truly superconducting. The only way to get energy into a perfect superconductor is to 'tune' the vibrational frequency OF THE ELECTRONS on the wire to match the frequency of the powder and then energy flows on WITH NO PUSH. It does not have to come off, it just flows on and on without coming off. The only way to get it off, is you have to tune the vibrational frequency of the wire that it's coming into